# Tweets from Learning Analytics conference 2011 I've previously posted all my tweets from different conferences, and I thought I'd do it again with the [Learning Analytics conference](https://tekri.athabascau.ca/analytics/). I don't know how useful it is to others, but at the very least, it's a very useful archive for myself. I tweeted much more in the beginning, and began to [write more in the Etherpad](http://reganmian.net/blog/tag/lak11) later - at the end I wasn't writing much of anything. I made a [screencast](http://reganmian.net/blog/2010/04/12/manipulating-list-of-tweets-with-textmate-with-screencast-2/) of one way of preparing these lists. - @gsiemens In which building of the Banff Centre is \#lak11 preconference tomorrow? - @courosa I fell off the lak course too early, from what I gathered though it's quite a grab bag. The conference will be interesting \#LAK11 - Finally at \#Lak11, great place. Already buzzing with conversations and excitement. This will be fun! - Should be of interest to \#lak11 participants RT @eknight A Working Badge Paper (for your feedback and collaboration): [http://bit.ly/dG4Q9k](http://bit.ly/dG4Q9k) - @gsiemens recommends newcomers in \#elearning field to "go data" - that's where the careers will be. All the big companies hiring. \#lak11 - \#lak11 "doing data analysis "to" the learner, vs. "for" the learner" - \#lak11 One of my concerns is that a lot of the "open learner models", etc, is based around guided discovery, tutoring. How about 1/2 - \#lak11 more open-ended inquiry based, constructivist learning? Training vs education vs discovery vs creation? - \#lak11 "As soon as you start measuring something, you change people's behaviour" - yes! One of my big concerns. - First mention of latent semantic analysis at \#lak11. Great - how does it tie in with semantic web and social web? - @dgasevich Could you share a copy of the '06 "Learning Object Context on the Semantic Web"? UToronto doesn't have access to fulltext. \#lak11 - RT @sbskmi: Learners won't care about algorithms -- until an algorithm thinks you will fail your course and blocks your course admission... \#LAK11 - .@dgasevich shows software tools loco-analyst [http://bit.ly/fF59m6](http://bit.ly/fF59m6) and intelleo [http://bit.ly/e8dRXb](http://bit.ly/e8dRXb) - fascinating \#lak11 - Great conversations around coffee break@ \#lak11. Corporate training, \#CSCW, business analytics, research collab, \#OA, ... All connected! - For fun, I'll try to take notes in \#etherpad, feel free to jump in and add stuff: [http://bit.ly/hxleEj](http://bit.ly/hxleEj) \#lak11 - Wish presenters at \#lak11 could use short urls on their slides, make it easier to type in on our side, before you change slides. - The \#lak11 visualization shows how little time I spent in the course, and how quickly I fell off. ariadne.cs.kuleuven.be/monitorwidget-lak11 - "altruistic learning (MOOCs etc) vs competitive learning (for grades, curved, zero-sum game)" - see differences in collab. behaviour? \#lak11 - \#lak11 "Participation is nice, but it doesn't really tell you what learning is happening - content analysis as well" - \#lak11 DataTel already hosts big datasets of learning interaction - wants more. Very interesting to \#P2PU. - \#lak11 Is there a common format to describe learning interactions across different platforms, to make it available to lot's of vis tools? - \#lak11 So many fun new tools to play with / explore. Hope these will be gathered somewhere (rather than having to mine all the PPTs) - \#lak11 Would be great to have a "speed-geeking" session where people can showcase their tools etc more intimately. - \#lak11 Oh oh, @psychemedia is up. I have a feeling my fingers are going to hurt from all the notes I need to take... - Great intro - "how can non-programmers do this kind of stuff, extract and analyze data" \#lak11 - \#lak11 @psychemedia : "Data is a dish best served raw" - great slogan for the \#od \#opendata movement - \#lak11 "A way of having a conversation with data in a visual form" - something we are very good at (doing through vision vs through math)" - A few people are starting to help me keep notes from \#lak11 on \#p2pu's \#etherpad. Very fun, and useful. [http://bit.ly/hxleEj](http://bit.ly/hxleEj) - RT @malpaso: HIrst neglected to mention "transformation" (one structure to another) as a step. Not a trivial step for non-programmers. \#lak11 - @aribadernatal Maybe. But would be useful with a list of data that these tools need, so we can know what to export. \#lak11 - \#lak11 Note to self: read up on and play with ManyEyes. - How do you link your own data, if there is no unique identifier? If I want to writ about OU academics, how do I make it easy to link? \#lak11 - \#lak11 Try to use consistent usernames. Not perfect (might not be available, someone could set up acct w/your username on new soc service) - \#lak11 Again, Twitter following isn't necessarily meaningful. I follow more than 800 ppl, but I don't read all of their tweets every day! - \#lak11 Retweets might be a better metric, but also not perfect. Would be neat if there were "twitter trends" showing me whose tweets I read - \#lak11 But Twitter doesn't know, because Nambu pulls down all the tweets and filter them for me. - \#lak11 It's funny how incredibly much easier it is to map Twitter followers, then to map co-citations in academic papers! - @gconole We need unique academic IDs, and unique paper IDs, and citations/papers need to use them. There are initiatives but ... \#lak11 - RT @sbskmi: @psychemedia is the mashup DJ spinning his discs here at \#lak11 But is current SNA adequately tuned for LEARNING? - RT @malpaso: Endless data. Endless patterns. Endless visualizations. What's relevant for decision and action? \#lak11 - @gsiemens Yes, there are others too. But haven't seen a single journal including this info yet. \#lak11 - @sbskmi Philosophizing abt diff. ways of live collab. notes - wonder how would be different in Compendium etc. [http://bit.ly/hxleEj](http://bit.ly/hxleEj) \#lak11 - RT @niklas\_karlsson: Data from the course \#Lak11 can easily be misinterpreted when personal interpretations are made. [http://bit.ly/fnAiLe](http://bit.ly/fnAiLe) \#lak11 - \#lak11 Wonderful lunch buffet, and great conversations about the amazing surveillance potential of data analytics. We know your appliances! - \#lak11 One of the frustrating things to me is the disconnect between schools of education and teach&learn in higher education. - \#lak11 No link between Office of Teaching Advancement and School of Education at University of Toronto. - When where? :) RT @gsiemens Who's up for dinner/beverages later tonight? \#lak11 @mweller is organizing :) - One of the core questions of \#P2PU!! RT @rmitchell Who Does? ;) RT @aribadernatal: "Students don't *do* optional." \#LAK11 - Brilliant. RT @dougclow @houshuang @rmitchell @aribadernatal Students don't do optional, but many learners do! d:-) \#lak11 - Unfortunately \#p2pu etherpad seems to be unstable, moving notes to \#piratepad: [http://bit.ly/hH3EHN](http://bit.ly/hH3EHN) \#lak11 - RT @technostats: @sbskmi - socio-cultural discourse analysis as a potential measure of knowledge acquisition. Very interesting concept. \#LAK11 - Great talk by @sbskmi at \#lak11. Very excited by new platforms for "reflective deliberation" Use at \#p2pu? Potential4analysis&deep learning - I heard rumours in the corridor about hot springs tonight - I'm interested :) \#lak11 - @gsiemens [http://bit.ly/f65vfu](http://bit.ly/f65vfu) \#lak11 Hot springs location - \#lak11 I find some of todays talks very interesting, others not at all. Wonder if others feel the same. Is learning analytics one thing - \#lak11 or several things? Are there clear overlaps/synergies? Or is this a collection of two different groups of people? - \#lak11 @gsiemens: Do we need different analytics for different disciplines? Is there no universal "learning science"? - \#lak11 gsiemens: Learners will game metrics. Me: only if the metrics are high stakes (ie. does it also apply at P2PU?) - \#lak11 gsiemens: Interesting disciplinary differences between socsci/humanities and CS in conference steering committe. - Great talk RT @sbskmi Theory-based Learning Analytics: \#LAK11 talk slides at [http://bit.ly/i8y4Ag](http://bit.ly/i8y4Ag) - RT @psychemedia: @gsiemens Presentation graphics may well be different to visualisations used in more analytic phase...? \#lak11 - RT @CosmoCat: Don´t miss @dougclow ´s "The Learning Analytics Cycle" [http://t.co/6BCewhf](http://t.co/6BCewhf) - and notes from @houshuang [http://bit.ly/fTTLW6](http://bit.ly/fTTLW6) \#lak11 - Starting collaborative note taking today here: [http://bit.ly/g2b2wC,](http://bit.ly/g2b2wC,) yesterday's notes are here: [http://bit.ly/hH3EHN](http://bit.ly/hH3EHN) \#lak11 - \#lak11 @gsiemens: "@psychemedia is the McGyver of data" - absolutely - RT @lgully: Hirst: irony of course descriptions written for grads not students seeking info \#LAK11. Need discoverable info. - RT @lgully: RT @CrudBasher: \#lak11 Totally agree -\> Hirst - learning should be lifelong. Universities should keep a learning relationship with grads - \#lak11 "Predictors vs causes:predictors of learning outcomes may be useful for "diagnostic" purposes, but need not be causally related" - RT @opencontent: @JonElmSherrill We almost always have ~more~ data online, it's just significantly impoverished... Pick your poison? \#lak11 - \#lak11 Finally a presenter using short urls, thank you @aribadernatal - \#lak11 Ah, it was [http://bit.ly/egV5Rt](http://bit.ly/egV5Rt) Mahout - thanks Andrew. - \#lak11 Reputation as a proxy for learning in informal learning contexts - Doug Clow. Very interesting to \#p2pu! - RT @Anna\_De\_Liddo: @dougclow I LOVE iSpot! We would need an iSpot for learning! what about laSpot: spot new learning analytics tools/theories! \#lak11 - What does @dougclow have against power-laws anyway? :) \#lak11 - Very dense talk by Dan Suthers on multi-level analysis. Just read his paper last night - lot's I don't understand, but fascinating \#lak11 - \#lak11 Interesting design of sessions here - very little time to ask questions or involve presenters in discussions around their prezos. - For new arrivals, collaborative notes on \#lak11 sessions being taken here: [http://bit.ly/g2b2wC](http://bit.ly/g2b2wC) Feel free to join. - RT @psychemedia: SNAPP bookmarklet code [http://bit.ly/hSmBy3](http://bit.ly/hSmBy3) \#lak11 - .@cteplovs @dreff Wish you both could have been here! But Ravi Vatrapu is doing a great job. \#lak11 - RT @cab938: Bears as learners, what a nice example for a conference in banff \#lak11 - Varatrapu: "Many ICT managers say that their IT systems are UNESCO heritage - cannot be touched". Now cloud-based, avoid problem \#lak11 - CommonLibrary on Sourceforge (Phil Ice mentioned this): [http://bit.ly/gc0IfA](http://bit.ly/gc0IfA) \#lak11 - That wraps up some pretty intense note-taking. Check out [http://bit.ly/g2b2wC,](http://bit.ly/g2b2wC,) feel free to add info. Will post on blog tonight. \#lak11 - RT @psychemedia: Really nice idea - give students a VM instance within which to do course related activities... and track them while they're at it ;-0 \#lak11 - @dougclow Not competition, complementarity :)Was just saying to Andrew that it would be neat to combine them to get sth more complete \#lak11 - Internet seems a bit more stable - I'm trying collab notes on Etherpad: [http://bit.ly/dZtfdM](http://bit.ly/dZtfdM) \#lak11 - Great conversation over lunch with @sbskmi, Dan Suthers, Ravi Vatrapu and @anna\_de\_liddo, lot's of new ideas. \#lak11 - Hoping someone will announce some collective activities tonight (dinner, drinks, springs, night skiing, improv? :)) \#lak11 - \#lak11 Sorry about note taking, feeling a bit overwhelmed by great ideas and things to explore. Luckily this is all being captured. - @dougclow Or maybe we should collaboratively create an interpretive snow sculpture that embodies the key lesson from the conference? \#lak11 - \#lak11 Interesting UoC has drop-out rate of 40%. Wonder if \#p2pu can aim to beat that... - @xaoch It's a really nice hike, but I think it gets dark around 6:15, and there is no lighting there. \#lak11 - @sbskmi This is key even for \#p2pu, which uses multiple external platforms for courses. \#LAK11 - @xaoch Easier if people could use same e-mails. Also need to get all the info in, not all services provide RSS etc. \#lak11 - .@gsiemens Summing up \#lak11 with "intimate encounter with tree" metaphor. Field is indeed moving fast, and lot's of opportunities 4 collab - We're thinking of going to springs at 6 (meet in lobby), and then for dinner/drinks if people want. \#lak11 - Just back in Toronto after great \#lak11 conference. Now lot's of follow-up and thinking about conference themes. Stay in touch all! - RT @markmelia: Glass - a key component to ubiquitous learning in the future - maybe - [http://youtu.be/6Cf7IL\_eZ38](http://youtu.be/6Cf7IL_eZ38) - thanks to tony bates for sharing \#lak11 - Notes from second day of \#lak11 posted: [http://bit.ly/gkfwxV.](http://bit.ly/gkfwxV.) Hope to write more reflective blog posts soonish. \#oer